we're talking with steve clemons with "the atlanta." and gary schmitt of the american enterprise institute. our focus is the nomination of chuck hagel to be the next defense secretary. ann joins us from tennessee, a democrat. caller: it does not matter who president obama nominates. the republicans will get everything and everybody he puts up there. they do not know -- what anybody who knows about war or how it feels to be in war. they can sit behind that desk and put authorizations. someone who has walked in their shoes know about war. it is time for the republicans and democrats to wake up. host: thanks for calling. gary schmitt? guest: there are senators who have walked in those shoes. senator mccain has locked in those shoes and sacrificed a great deal -- has walked in those shoes and sacrificed a great deal. i do not think that is the issue. it is not clear senator hagel, he may not get many votes from republican senators for the nomination, but there are a number of senators who lean toward more libertarian positions on foreign po